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James E. Veale, CPA, MBT

Dennis,

It is my belief that much of the well meaning but overly ambitious and draconian state proposals are the direct result of industry inaction. While some may want to blame NRMLA, it is just over one decade old. Quite frankly, it is not surprising that state officials are willing to work with us if we accept their legislation. Why weren’t we more proactively involved much earlier so that we are on a more “level playing field”?

HECMs are wonderful products but some of the laws, regulations, and particularly the enforcement surrounding them need to be strengthened. Some aspects have holes so big; a truck can be driven through them.

For example, under federal law there is nothing to prevent felons (even those convicted of senior financial abuse) from becoming either HECM originators or counselors. As of yet there is little effort to enforce the cross selling provisions of HERA. There is also little effort to pursue those who violate the prohibition on HECM originators being involved in real estate transactions requiring a real estate license.

Licensing and determining who is qualified to sell or counsel on financial products is normally not a federal function. Further, some state legislators do not believe that the cross selling rules of HERA go far enough. Others believe that suitability determinations should be provided for seniors.

Certainly the biggest potential problem is that the only federal rules governing proprietary reverse mortgages are the rules that generally govern forward mortgages. FHA has no jurisdiction over proprietary reverse mortgages; however, during 2006 - 2008 when proprietary lending was on the rise, lender behavior in providing proprietary reverse mortgages was in most ways exemplary.

Even though many in our industry endorse and support the idea that only federal law should oversee the reverse mortgage industry, there is no constitutional restriction, federal statute, or Supreme Court decision that prohibits the states from creating most of the laws now under contemplation. Of course, I am not attorney or other legal expert; so please correct any errors in my conclusion, Dennis.

Again even though it is long overdue, I personally support proactive measures to combat the current state legislative onslaught we are enduring. The best that can be said about the current situation is that a yeoman’s effort is being made by NRMLA staff and volunteers to REACT. Although Minnesota has reduced its rescission proposal to 10 days, it is hardly anything to write home about.

To be proactive and to avoid offending state legislators, it would have been appropriate to have convened a meeting between reverse mortgage industry leaders and various representatives from the states to hammer out some kind of state model act years ago. Such an act could have included HECM guidelines as well as licensing rules, counseling standards, origination and lender standards, punitive measures against violators, and other relevant provisions. States that deviate from the model could easily have pressure applied not only from the industry but also other states. Model acts have worked well in the past including in the area of taxation.

We may not want over 50 different jurisdictions overseeing our activities with very divergent rules but unless we act in a proactive way, such will be the result.

RickM

Dennis, I commend you, not for voicing your opinion but for it to make so much sense (even for an attorney).

James E. Veale, CPA, MBT

Scott,

I disagree with your remarks.

AARP, HUD/FHA, NRMLA, the lenders, and others have not created a rock solid program. The HECM program in areas has holes so large you can drive a truck through them. For example, the state of Washington passed a law to prohibit felons from offering HECMs. There is no federal law prohibiting felons from being HECM originators or counselors. (The headline risk on this front is enormous.)

Most lenders have not put into place the cross selling rules of HERA. Many licensed insurance and investment salespeople are still selling HECMs with no significant change in lender oversight (other than perhaps some of the larger lenders).

What about different lender standards in education and discipline? No government agency performs that task today. NRMLA is totally ineffectual at enforcing its own rules on nonmember lenders. These are normally the domain of state government as is the case with attorneys, CPAs, insurance agents, and other licensed professional disciplines. The foregoing is but a few of the issues.

Finally, not all reverse mortgages are governed by FHA the same way that HECMs are. In 2006, 2007, and 2008, we had a substantial increase in proprietary reverse mortgages. As to FHA they have no oversight. As to HUD, the oversight is no different than any forward mortgage. Fortunately in most regards, the behavior of lenders was exemplary. Since we expect to see these products return it is important that the states take the actions they are.

For example, there is no federal law that requires counseling on any reverse mortgage other than HECMs. There is no federal law that states what counseling on reverse mortgages other than HECMs must consist of. Etc. Etc. Etc. The HECM rules do not apply to proprietary reverse mortgages.

No, Scott, even as a reverse mortgage originator I fundamentally disagree.

Scott Tucker

Dennis,

I'm very concerned with the attitude that state governments can add layers of "protection" to an already rock-solid federal program, that already has oversight from HUD, and mortgage insurance from the FHA.

I mean if AARP, FHA, HUD, and NRMLA can't get it right...which they have...how arrogant of state law-makers to think that they somehow know best...when they (in most cases) have taken zero time with reverse mortgage originators in their own backyards to LEARN about the FHA-insured reverse mortgage.

Clearly they care more about grabbing headlines than helping our seniors.

Thanks for speaking-out on this.

Sincerely,

Scott Tucker
http://blog.MortgageMarketingGenius.com

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